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The ring always loses: what one rolling-race question taught me about rotational motion

I lost three marks on a "which reaches the bottom first" question, then spent a weekend with a plank and four tins. This is the whole idea in one place.

Neel Chatterjee12th Sample

7 Sept 2026 · 5 min read

Photo: Jim Evans · CC BY-SA 4.0 · via Wikimedia Commons

Last month's Tuesday mock had a question I still think about. A ring, a disc, a solid sphere and a thin hollow sphere are released together from the top of the same incline. All of them roll without slipping. Which one reaches the bottom first?

I picked the ring. My reasoning, if you can call it that: all the mass is at the rim, so it has more "oomph" once it gets going. It was wrong, and not by a little. The ring is dead last.

I play a lot of chess, and there's a mistake I make there too. I think I'm attacking, but I've actually spent my tempo on a move that looks active and does nothing. The ring does exactly that. It is busy, it is spinning like crazy, and all that busy-ness is energy that is not going into moving forward.

So let me write down the one idea that fixed this for me.

Energy has two places to go

A body rolling down loses potential energy mghmgh. That energy has to be shared between moving forward and spinning:

mgh=12mv2+12Iω2mgh = \tfrac{1}{2}mv^2 + \tfrac{1}{2}I\omega^2

For rolling without slipping, v=ωRv = \omega R. Write I=mk2I = mk^2 (k is the radius of gyration) and the whole thing collapses into

mgh=12mv2(1+k2R2)mgh = \tfrac{1}{2}mv^2\left(1 + \frac{k^2}{R^2}\right)

Only the first term makes you faster down the slope. The second term is the "tax" for spinning. A ring has k=Rk = R, so k2/R2=1k^2/R^2 = 1 and half its energy goes into spinning. A solid sphere has I=25mR2I = \frac{2}{5}mR^2, so the ratio is 2/52/5 and only 2/72/7 of its energy is spent on rotation.

Rearranging, the acceleration along the incline is

a=gsin⁡θ1+k2/R2a = \frac{g\sin\theta}{1 + k^2/R^2}

BodyII about centrek2/R2k^2/R^2aa
Solid sphere25mR2\frac{2}{5}mR^22/557gsin⁡θ\frac{5}{7}g\sin\theta
Disc / solid cylinder12mR2\frac{1}{2}mR^21/223gsin⁡θ\frac{2}{3}g\sin\theta
Thin hollow sphere23mR2\frac{2}{3}mR^22/335gsin⁡θ\frac{3}{5}g\sin\theta
RingmR2mR^2112gsin⁡θ\frac{1}{2}g\sin\theta

Order of arrival: solid sphere, disc, hollow sphere, ring. Notice that mass and radius are nowhere in the final formula. A huge ring and a tiny ring tie. That was my second mistake in the test, I kept wanting the heavier body to win. Mass cancels everywhere in gravity-driven motion and I forgot it the moment a rotation showed up.

"But friction opposes motion!"

This one tripped me for a whole year. If friction acts on the rolling body, doesn't that waste energy?

For pure rolling, no. The point touching the ground is instantaneously at rest, so static friction there does no work. What friction does is supply the torque that makes the body spin up while it speeds up:

τ=Iα,τ=fR\tau = I\alpha, \qquad \tau = f R

Take the torque about the centre. Gravity gives no torque about the centre of mass, so friction is the only thing that can make it rotate. Without friction (a perfectly smooth incline) the bodies just slide, nothing rotates, and all four tie with a=gsin⁡θa = g\sin\theta.

How much friction is needed? From f=mgsin⁡θ−maf = mg\sin\theta - ma you get

f=mgsin⁡θ⋅k2/R21+k2/R2f = mg\sin\theta\cdot\frac{k^2/R^2}{1 + k^2/R^2}

and since N=mgcos⁡θN = mg\cos\theta, the condition for rolling is μ≥tan⁡θ⋅k2/R21+k2/R2\mu \ge \tan\theta\cdot\frac{k^2/R^2}{1+k^2/R^2}. Ring needs 12tan⁡θ\frac{1}{2}\tan\theta, solid sphere only 27tan⁡θ\frac{2}{7}\tan\theta. So the ring is also the one most likely to start slipping on a rough-ish surface.

The moment of inertia sheet I keep in my geometry box

  • Ring (axis through centre, perpendicular to plane): MR2MR^2
  • Disc: 12MR2\frac{1}{2}MR^2
  • Solid sphere: 25MR2\frac{2}{5}MR^2, thin spherical shell: 23MR2\frac{2}{3}MR^2
  • Rod, axis through centre and perpendicular: ML212\frac{ML^2}{12}; about one end: ML23\frac{ML^2}{3}

Then two theorems that I mixed up for a long time.

Parallel axis: I=Icm+Md2I = I_{cm} + Md^2. Works for any body, but the two axes must be parallel and one must pass through the centre of mass.

Perpendicular axis: Iz=Ix+IyI_z = I_x + I_y. Works only for flat, planar bodies (laminas). I once used it on a solid sphere in a test and got a number so wrong that even I knew something was off.

Angular momentum, with the skater everyone draws

L=IωL = I\omega, and it stays constant if the net external torque is zero. A skater pulls her arms in, II drops, so ω\omega goes up. What I never saw in school: kinetic energy goes up too, because KE=L2/2IKE = L^2/2I and LL is fixed. The extra energy comes from the work her muscles do pulling the arms inward. Energy is not appearing from nowhere.

What I actually do now

Before I touch a formula in any rotation question I write one line: where does the energy go? Sometimes it's a bar divided into "translation" and "rotation", nothing fancy. It forces me to notice if a spinning body is involved at all, and that alone has saved me from the ring trap twice since.

I also did the plank experiment because I was annoyed. A wooden plank against a pile of books, a steel marble, a solid wooden cylinder I found in a drawer, and a tin of chickpeas. The marble won every time, which felt like a small personal victory over my old self. The tin of chickpeas came last-ish, and I'm still not sure how to explain it cleanly, so I'm not going to pretend I can.

If you're in class 11 and rotational motion feels like a different subject from the rest of mechanics, it isn't. It's the same energy accounting you already know, with one extra bucket.

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  • [+]Arjun Nair12thSample· 1mo ago

    Good write-up. One thing I'd add for people who like the friction condition: the ring needs the most friction, the solid sphere the least. So on a rough incline all four can roll but on a slippery one the ring is the first to slip. Nice link with the energy bucket idea.

    • [+]Neel Chatterjee12thSample· 1mo agoAuthor

      Yes, I had it in the draft and cut it for length, adding a line now. Thanks.

  • [+]Harsh Gupta12thSample· 1mo ago

    the ring is basically that group project member who puts all the effort into the formatting and none into the content 😭

  • [+]Ishaan Bose11thSample· 1mo ago

    Class 11 here. I get the order now but I can never remember 2/5 and 2/3. Always swap them. Any trick or do I just mug it

    • [+]Neel Chatterjee12thSample· 1mo agoAuthor

      Think of how far the mass sits from the axis. Shell has everything at the surface, solid sphere has stuff packed near the centre. More mass far out means bigger I, so the shell gets the bigger number (2/3 > 2/5). Ring is the extreme at 1.

  • [+]Vivek Mishra12thSample· 1mo ago

    I made same mistake in my school test. I thought the heavy one will always win because it has more force. Your point that mass cancel is the thing I will remember. One doubt: if the sphere has a heavy metal core inside and light wood outside, who wins?

    • [+]Neel Chatterjee12thSample· 1mo agoAuthor

      Heavy core means mass is nearer the centre, so I is smaller than 2/5 mR², so k²/R² is smaller and it rolls faster than a uniform sphere. Light core with heavy skin goes the other way. Same formula, only the k changes.

  • [+]Tushar PawarDropperSample· 1mo ago

    Tin of chickpeas / soup tin result is a known fun one. The liquid or contents don't spin rigidly with the can, so it behaves like it has less rotational inertia than a solid cylinder and comes down faster. Roughly. Not going to claim I've done the full analysis lol

  • [+]Rohan Sharma11thSample· 1mo ago

    bro i picked ring too 💀 wait so if ring is slowest does it have more kinetic energy at the bottom because bigger I?

    • [+]Neel Chatterjee12thSample· 1mo agoAuthor

      No, all four have the same total KE at the bottom, it's just mghmgh for each (same mass doesn't even matter, same height). The ring puts half of it into spin so its forward speed is lower. Same energy, different split.

  • [+]Meera Patel11thSample· 1mo ago

    Small clarification worth adding: "static friction does no work" holds for pure rolling. If the body is slipping, kinetic friction acts and energy is dissipated as heat, so the neat energy equation stops working. Your post is fine, just flagging it for juniors.

  • [+]Mehak AroraDropperSample· 1mo ago

    reading this at 1am because I can't sleep and honestly it helped?? my mnemonic for the order: "Some Dogs Hate Rain", Sphere, Disc, Hollow sphere, Ring. Thank you

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